{"id":5874,"date":"2018-06-10T22:29:01","date_gmt":"2018-06-10T20:29:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/159.69.82.204\/win\/?p=5874"},"modified":"2022-06-27T09:17:29","modified_gmt":"2022-06-27T07:17:29","slug":"microsoft-plans-a-windows-10-v1803-smbv1-fix-on-june-2018","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/06\/10\/microsoft-plans-a-windows-10-v1803-smbv1-fix-on-june-2018\/","title":{"rendered":"Microsoft plans a Windows 10 V1803 SMBv1 fix on June 2018"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float: left; margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px; display: inline;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.borncity.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/win102.jpg\" width=\"58\" height=\"58\" align=\"left\" \/>[<a href=\"https:\/\/www.borncity.com\/blog\/2018\/06\/09\/kommt-ein-smbv1-fix-fr-windows-10-v1803-zum-juni-2018-patchday\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">German<\/a>]Just a brief information for users of the Windows 10 April Update who runs into network issues with and possibly with multi-function devices (scanners using a scan to network shares). It seems that Microsoft is working on a fix for the 'SMBv1 isses' and plans to release a patch in June (patchday would be June 12, 2018). Microsoft has fixed this issue &#8211; see my addendum.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>Some background about the network SMBv1 issue<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/ssl-vg03.met.vgwort.de\/na\/414a4c2c6df3456880b2a8be72b0b98f\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" \/>Microsoft had already announced since summer 2017 that support for the SMBv1 protocol in Windows 10 will expire. The abbreviation <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Server_Message_Block\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SMB<\/a> stands for Server Message Block (former names are LAN Manager or NetBIOS protocol), a network protocol for file, print and other server services in computer networks. Version 1 (SMBv1) of the network protocol designed over 30 years ago, and especially the Microsoft implementation, is considered very error-prone and security-critical (see <a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2017\/06\/15\/microsoft-plans-to-retire-smbv1-in-fall-in-windows-10\/\">Microsoft plans to deactivate SMBv1 in\u00a0 Windows 10 V1709<\/a> and <a title=\"https:\/\/aka.ms\/StopUsingSMB1\" href=\"https:\/\/aka.ms\/StopUsingSMB1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">StopUsingSMB1<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime there are SMBv2 and SMBv3, so that the use of SMBv1 in Windows networks is no longer absolutely necessary. For example, Windows Vista is no longer dependent on SMBv1 because SMBv2 is used there.<\/p>\n<h2>What's the problem?<\/h2>\n<p>For new installations of Windows 10 it was at least since Windows 10 V1709 that SMBv1 was deactivated. If devices required SMBv1, the administrator had to activate SMBv1 again via Windows features (<a href=\"https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-us\/help\/2696547\/how-to-detect-enable-and-disable-smbv1-smbv2-and-smbv3-in-windows-and\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">see also<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Windows Features SMB 1.0\/CIFS\" src=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210505062329\/https:\/\/kbdevstorage1.blob.core.windows.net\/asset-blobs\/4014206_en_1\" alt=\"Windows Features SMB 1.0\/CIFS\" \/><\/p>\n<p>With Windows 10 V1803, however, the 'missing SMBv1' problem has probably hit a lot of people, because this build also brings a change after upgrade. If the SMBv1 client is not used for a total of 15 days (except when the computer is turned off), Windows 10 April Update automatically uninstalls the SMBv1 client (see <a href=\"https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-us\/help\/4034314\/smbv1-is-not-installed-by-default-in-windows\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this Microsoft article<\/a> and my blog post <a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/06\/07\/windows-10-scanner-fails-after-update\/\">Windows 10: Scanner fails after update<\/a>). But re-enabling SMBv1 in Windows 10 V1803 doesn't fix all network issues.<\/p>\n<h2>Some changes in KB4103721, KB4100403<\/h2>\n<p>In May 2018 Microsoft released the updates <a href=\"https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-us\/help\/4103721\/windows-10-update-kb4103721\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">KB4103721<\/a> (05\/08\/2018) and <a href=\"https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-us\/help\/4100403\/windows-10-update-kb4100403\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">KB4100403<\/a> (05\/23\/2018) for Windows 10 V1803. However, after upgrading to Windows 10 V1803 or installing these updates, users of Windows 10 April Update seem to experience issues when using the SMBv1 protocol. I noticed postings in the Microsoft-Answers forums, where my hint to try to activate SMBv1 once did not bring a success. I couldn't figure it out at first. Now Microsoft has added the following paragraph in the 'Known issues' section to the two KB articles mentioned above.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Some users running Windows 10 version 1803 may receive an error \"An invalid argument was supplied\" when accessing files or running programs from a shared folder using the SMBv1 protocol.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The site <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2018\/06\/08\/windows_10_smb1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Register<\/a> noticed that, and Microsoft wrote about the know issue within the kb articles:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Enable SMBv2 or SMBv3 on both the SMB server and the SMB client, as described in <a href=\"https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-us\/help\/2696547\/how-to-detect-enable-and-disable-smbv1-smbv2-and-smbv3-in-windows-and\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">KB2696547<\/a>. Microsoft is working on a resolution that will be available later in June.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is correct to switch to SMBv2 or SMBv3 in your environment (clients and servers) to solve the security problem associated with SMBv1. But there are also scenarios where SMBv1 is mandatory (if a client or server, like a NAS drive, an All-in-One printer etc., which supports only SMBv1 from the firmware). Then you need to activate SMBv1 for a transition time.<\/p>\n<h3>Some background about the SMBv1 bug<\/h3>\n<p>So Microsoft says, that there is an issue in SMBv1 for Windows 10 V1803. Let's see, whether we can get more details. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2018\/06\/08\/windows_10_smb1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Register<\/a> has a possible hint, pointing to a MSDN forum discussion. Within the thread <a href=\"https:\/\/social.msdn.microsoft.com\/Forums\/ie\/en-US\/80d86b3b-28ff-4abe-945f-a1efccb5cf8e\/rs41803windows-10-1803-wont-run-odbc-sql-connected-application-from-network\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RS4:1803]Windows 10 1803 won't run ODBC SQL connected application from network<\/a>, there are more details. The thread creator wrote:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>We have an application that runs from a network location. It has always worked fine in Windows 10 through latest cumulative 1709 builds. Since updating online to 1803 (17134.1) it will not run from the network.<\/li>\n<li>With an ODBC SQL connection, from Windows 10 Build 17134.1 (the RTM of the Windows 10 April Update) an access error occurs (e.g. to Oracle databases in the network).<\/li>\n<li>SMB 1.0\/CIFS is enabled for client and server shares, so it should work with shared network accesses.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The thread starter was able to solve his issue activating SMBv2. But if you depend on SMBv1 (see my notes above), you won't get any further. Within the <a href=\"https:\/\/social.msdn.microsoft.com\/Forums\/ie\/en-US\/80d86b3b-28ff-4abe-945f-a1efccb5cf8e\/rs41803windows-10-1803-wont-run-odbc-sql-connected-application-from-network\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">thread<\/a>, user Nicolas Casas then posted a possible explanation:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>you are pointing something. I have the same issue , that is running an exe from a SMB1 network share<br \/>\nSince windows 10 1803 update the sql server access was filtered that way<br \/>\nbut on one PC it was working. this one runs Avast as well.<br \/>\nso I did a fresh installation of 1803, manually enabled SMB1 in windows with<\/p>\n<p>dism \/online \/enable-feature \/featurename:SMB1Protocol-Server<\/p>\n<p>and SQL access was not working. I then installed avast latest free version<br \/>\nand it worked! Additionnaly I uninstalled Avast.. and blocked again. so &#8230; I look on Defender firewall to add the application in the list, disabled defender but no way to succeed yet<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Within the MSDN forum thread other users confirmed similar observations with other third-party virus scanners. It appears that Windows Defender in combination with Windows Firewall causes an issue with SMBv1 shares.<\/p>\n<h2>Some workarounds<\/h2>\n<p>If you depend to access network shares with SMBv1, you can install Avast Free or a third-party firewall so that Windows Defender and Windows Firewall are turned off, and it works. Just crazy.<\/p>\n<p>For a Windows 10 V1803 network environment, Microsoft has outlined a possible workaround without activating the SMBv1 protocol within <a href=\"https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-us\/help\/4034314\/smbv1-is-not-installed-by-default-in-windows\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this article<\/a> (section Explorer Network Browsing).<\/p>\n<p>For All-in-One printers with a failing scan to network share function, read my blog post <a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/06\/07\/windows-10-scanner-fails-after-update\/\">Windows 10: Scanner fails after update<\/a>. Overall we need to wait and see, if and what Microsoft will present us on June 2018 patchday (06\/12\/2018).<\/p>\n<h2>Addendum: Final Fix with Update\u00a0KB4284848<\/h2>\n<p>Microsoft released\u00a0Update\u00a0KB4284848 for Windows 10 V1803, which also contains a fix for the SMBv1 issue (see also\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/06\/27\/psa-windows-10-v1803-update-kb4284848-brings-smbv1-fix\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">PSA: Windows 10 V1803: Update KB4284848 brings SMBv1 fix<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Similar articles:<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2017\/06\/15\/microsoft-plans-to-retire-smbv1-in-fall-in-windows-10\/\">Microsoft plans to deactivate SMBv1 in\u00a0 Windows 10 V1709<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/06\/07\/windows-10-scanner-fails-after-update\/\">Windows 10: Scanner fails after update<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/14\/windows-10-issues-with-wsus-and-store-v1803\/\">Windows 10: Issues with WSUS and Store (V1803)<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/22\/windows-10-an-app-default-was-reset\/\">Windows 10: 'An App default was reset'<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/24\/windows-10-v1803-update-kb4100403-with-ssd-fix\/\">Windows 10 V1803: Update KB4100403 (with SSD fix)<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/14\/windows-10-v1803-fix-for-explorer-timeline-crashes\/\">Windows 10 V1803: Fix for Explorer Timeline crashes<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210505145339\/https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/12\/windows-10-v1803-boot-issues-with-update-kb4103721\/\">Windows 10 V1803: (Boot-) issues with update KB4103721<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/26\/windows-10-v1803-feature-upgrade-and-avast-damages\/\">Windows 10 V1803 Feature Upgrade and AVAST damages<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/10\/windows-10-v1803-rollout-stopped-for-intel-ssds\/\">Windows 10 V1803: Rollout stopped for Intel SSDs<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/08\/windows-10-fall-april-update-upgrade-tips\/\">Windows 10 Fall April Update \u2013 Upgrade Tips<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/08\/media-feature-pack-for-windows-10-n-version-1803\/\">Media Feature Pack for Windows 10 N Version 1803<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/05\/09\/windows-10-security-updates-may-8-2018\/\">Windows 10 security updates May 8, 2018<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[German]Just a brief information for users of the Windows 10 April Update who runs into network issues with and possibly with multi-function devices (scanners using a scan to network shares). It seems that Microsoft is working on a fix for &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/2018\/06\/10\/microsoft-plans-a-windows-10-v1803-smbv1-fix-on-june-2018\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[463,22,2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5874","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-issue","category-update","category-windows"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5874","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5874"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5874\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5874"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5874"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/borncity.com\/win\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5874"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}