[German]Currently, some users of Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 are wondering about the updates offered by Microsoft Update Servers. Two users have contacted me who were suddenly offered ancient updates on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 as important (thanks for that). I'll post it on the blog to find out if more users are affected. By the way, this is not the first case of such zombie updates showing up.
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IE 11 Update KB3185319 offered again
Blog reader Chris Pugson left a comment in the blog and reported that he had been offered update KB3185319 again:
KB3185319 was repeated on 17 August 2021 as one of three important updates for Windows 8.1.
I had already reported on such a case in April 2019 in the blog post IE 11 Security update KB3185319 offered again in 2019). At that time, German users had contacted me and reported that the update KB3185319 was offered again on Windows 7. Ich
(Internet Explorer 11 Update KB3185319, Clickk to zoom)
It is a cumulative security update KB3185319 for Internet Explorer 11, which in the date information refers to 9/13/2016 – so it is an ancient update.
Old updates for Windows 7
In addition, blog reader Sebastian K. contacted me by mail because he experienced a similar case. He is still running a computer with Windows 2007, when he was suddenly offered updates as Important on this device. He writes:
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Hello Mr. Born,
I still use an old PC with Windows 7 but without ESU support. So for a good year and a half without updates, if you disregard the Windows MSR Tool.
(Don't worry, a new PC with Windows 10 is almost ready. I still like to use the old thing. )
Astonished I saw today (18.08.2021), how suddenly 7 important updates were available. After a short look, however, they were old known updates, which were previously provided only under "Optional" and which I had successfully ignored. These updates are now displayed as "Important" for me, even the description still says "Recommended Update".
Sebastian has send me the following screenshot of his Windows 7 system showing an old Edge update from June 2020 as important.
(Old Updates, Clickk to zoom)
The blog reader lists the subsequent updates that have now been offered to him again:
- KB4493132
- KB4033339
- KB4503548
- KB4567409
- KB3133977
- KB3150513
- KB3172605
Furthermore, he writes about it:
Especially the three lower updates (from 2016!) were noticed negatively at that time. That is why I have not installed them until today.
Perhaps this new evaluation on the part of Microsoft is worth a report. Have the problems from back then faded away, or should one continue to look at these updates critically?
I think the updates to the Edge browser on Windows 7 as well as .NET Framework are ok.
Suddenly, old updates from the past are offered via Windows Update. Usually this occurs after Microsoft has removed updates from their servers or withdrawn an update. My guess is that then something gets mixed up in the meta data of the servers. Then the update search finds any old update packages that are actually installed on the machines long ago. My advice is to check if the update is not already on the machine and then block it.
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I have a hunch that this caused a problem picked up by the System File Checker utility. I have had long term problems with Windows 8.1 system file corruption and I thought that I had beaten the problem. Luckily I had a very recent backup and reverted to it. The same problem update was presented to me but this time I hid IE 11 Update KB3185319 and passed System File Checker's examination.
Use Windows 8.1 system update manually and check carefully for old updates. I had also installed a Windows Defender update which failed because Defender was DISABLED but that didn't stop me being offered the Defender AV database update.
just download & run the KB3185319 MSU file from MS Update Catalog
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=3185319
Run it and see if the message "KB3185319 update is already installed" shows up.
If it prompts to install the update, then it was either not previously installed or that newer monthly rollups (like the ones from mid-2018 onwards) may have quietly removed some of the files from KB3185319 and the KB3185319 update has to be re-installed.
For me, I was NOT offered the KB3185319 IE11 update on my Win7 & 8.1 systems because it was ALREADY installed a long time ago.