[German]There are reports, that Intel Management Engine is causing issues during update installation in Windows 10 version 2004 / 20H2? A German blog reader pointed me to this issue, because updates are dropping a bluescreen PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (update error 0x800F0845) during installs on machines with certain chipsets. The cause seems to be the Intel Management Engine.
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Updates fail with BSOD
German blog reader Manuel W. contacted me in early February 2021 via email and shared his observations. He has the problem under a Windows 10 version 2004 that he can no longer install updates since September 2020. He wrote:
Unfortunately, I have been having problems making Windows 10 2004 build 19041.450 updates since September 2020. I was able to install the last cumulative update for Windows 10 in August 2020. It ends every time with a bluescreen PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (update error 0x800F0845).
Updates like .Net Framework or (at that time also Adobe Flash) can still be installed without problems.
Manuel mentioned that he is not an expert to fully evaluate a bluescreen. But his knowledge is enough to narrow down the source of the BSOD. In addition he writes:
My hardware is ok. I looked at the dumb with WinDBG and it might be due to the Intel Management Engine (TeeDriverW8x64) or the driver.
His various repair options, which he carried out, unfortunately remained without success. In the meantime Manuel has found some articles about this problem in the net, so he is not alone with the error. Manuel wrote about this:
It mainly affects z97/h97 chipsets, I myself still own a z97 from MSI with an Intel i7 4790k. Installing the Intel management driver downgrade or update also ends with the same BSOD. One could almost believe that the access is denied.
Uninstalling the August 2020 update and trying to update directly to a newer version doesn't work either.
Manuel writes that the cumulative update from August 2020, on the other hand, can be installed again without any problems. Exciting question would be if this is an isolated case?
More cases found
Manuel came across a thread on the Evga forum. A user with Windows 10 20H2 ran into a similar problem describes it like this:
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Z97 Classified and Win 10 20H2 update
Hello, I need some help with my Z97 board, I run it with Corsair 16 gig RAM kit which is to 8 gig sticks, and I've had no issues with it with my i7 until now.
When it tries to do the monthly November incremental, and/or does the feature update to 20H2, the update begins and installs and after 30% when the computer restarts, it begins the reboot sequence and then I get a blue screen with a page fault error. It would do the typical two-boot try and then do the automatic repair and uninstall the update and I would be back to my desktop.
The log showed that I put on 10 forums that it was something to do with Intel management engine, but I also uninstalled that and retried, same thing. […]
This user describes his problems in detail in the thread and names the Intel Management Engine as the cause. According to the user, deactivating and then reactivating it in the device manager also ends in a BSOD. For some users who describe the problem on the web, a reinstallation of Windows 10 does not work either. Manuel states that this is also the case for him.
On Microsoft Answers there is the thread PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA after installing KB4571756, where one user describes the error on Windows 10 version 2004 in connection with the update KB4571756 from September 8, 2020. A dump shown there refers to AV_R_INVALID_TeeDriverW8x64 as the cause of the BlueScreen error.
There is another reference in the Tens forum within the thread FAILED install: September 8, 2020—KB4571756. I didn't search further, Manuel writes that there are more posts on the internet. To this Manuel adds:
There are other contributions on the net. But whether these are sufficient to inform Microsoft that there are problems here, too, I almost doubt.
doubt – or [that] manufacturers provide new drivers or firmwares for older hardware.I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't related to the recent problems with Lenovo devices, as there were/are problems with the Intel Management Engine here as well, among other things.
Do you are facing this issue too? Any other insights or a solution? I will try to forward this to Microsoft´s support.
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Same CPU, same chipset, same problem. No solution in sight. Bummer.
Same issue for my trusty ol' rig bought in 2015.
Mobo : MSI H97 Gaming3 (LGA 1150)
CPU : Intel I7-4790 (3.60GHz)
Ram : G.Skill XM Series Ripjaws X 2x8Go (DR3 1600 MHz CL9)
GPU : Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970 Windforce (GV-N970WF3OC-4GD)
1st time encountering an issue while installing a windows 10 update since I've had this computer. Spend 4 days scratching my head, was afraid at some point that my hardware was starting to fail me… until I realized IMEI driver was causing the issue by analyzing minidumps file : TeeDriverW8x64 is definitely what causes the BSOD and update failures.
Managed to go back to a windows 10 from July 2020 and slowly worked my way through driver updates with Driver Booster. I managed to stabilize my install at version 2004 with several updates, but version 20h2 still won't reach completion and cause BSOD.
Idk if this message can help, but the issue DOES exist for sure. I hope Microsoft will manage to fix it some time soon.
Same issue here :(
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz 4 cores
Motherboard: MSI MS-7922 Z97S SLI
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 380 Series
Just reintalled Windows 10 because I thought the problem was coming from a software or something on my computer (which was quite full) but now that I have a clean and empty computer, the problem's still here…
Same problem but I get BSOD with error "Unsupported Processor"
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K CPU
Motherboard: ASUS z97-k
GPU: NVIDIA Geforce GTX 960
If you do get stuck in BSODs because of this and can't get anything to boot, try my suggestion here:
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Z97-CLASSIFIED-and-Intel-Management-Engine-Interface-BSOD-because-of-BIOS-206-m3231063.aspx
I had all the exact problem. What solved it in the end was simply updating my motherboard bios. I have the MSI Z97-GAMING-5.
MSI Z97-GAMING-5
I7 4790k
Updating bios also resolve that problem on my PC
THANKS
I have been struggling with this problem for 3 days
BIOS update to latest version finally helped. It was the solution for my colleague's PC also that had the same chipset z97.
Probe de todo, y aqui encontre la solucion, despues de batallar dos dias, se soluciona actualizando la bios tambien. En mis caso z97pcmate, con i7 4790k
Ditto: Spare PC here for my kid to game on. Have just got this computer working again (now frightened to reboot) after 14 solid days trying to install windows 10 update which gave a thousand BSoD's to do with the Intel Management Engine Interface (What blew it was Windows 10 wanted a reboot just when I had tried to update the Intel MEI that also required a reboot, and that DESTROYED this PC (Z97 MSI) for weeks as it ran worse than something from the early 1990's and then went into boot loops what felt like maybe ten-thousand times. Complete re-installs did nothing to help, as going back to the UPDATE of Windows 10 again repeated the DESTRUCTIVE cycle after I spend dozens of hours slowly re-installing all his programs and games. EVENTUALLY yesterday, during a BSoD loop, a Windows message popped up and told me there was a serious error they recovered, and with one more complete re-install (after I had tried a new PSU, a different GPU, a different SSD, a HDD & an M.2 and even put on a new CPU cooler, and swopped the SSD cable [just in case] [and even bought a new Windows 10 key]) it now seems to be working fine. I am older and greyer then two weeks ago, and it is a good job Bill Gates never walked past my house or he would have been in a ditch.
EDIT
I still cannot find anywhere to update the BIOS.
Japanese MouseComputer MSI Z97-S01
Currently I am accepting the little Intel yellow triangle there.
Hi there,
I have the same issue with my MSI H97.
Everything's fine until I installed IME.
I'll try to update the bios and keep you posted.
Hugo
I have a Z97.
After cleaning my pc part by part, resintalling windows, running cmd commands… I also tried to disable, uninstall or update the Intel ME but it was constantly crashing to BSOD.
I then updated my bios, and I could do the update. Thx all